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2025-10-24 21:13:15 UTC

13: The Linux of Social Media

"The identity should be outside of the computer."

hzrd149 & Gigi contemplate local relays.

Libraries & apps mentioned:

In this dialogue:

  • Automation & robot armies

  • If this than that (IFTTT)

  • Permissioned vs permissionless automation

  • Self-hosting and the local-first people

  • "The identity should be outside of the computer"

  • Private vs public, local vs remote

  • DRM and other nonsense

  • Private means encrypted with my key

  • Nostr apps should be local-first, thanks to local relays

  • All nostr apps should work in flight mode, somewhat

  • Outbox model, writing, and reading

  • Search & NIP-50

  • Ants & thisishowyougetants.com 

  • 6 degrees of separation & FoaF

  • WoT

  • Friend list curation & "circles"

  • "Don't touch my follow list"

  • Bootstrapping a network by saying GM a lot

  • Recommendations usually suck

  • Nostr can shine

  • Vertex & figuring out who John is

  • NIP-05 & realness

  • Root-level domains & realness (e.g. @dergigi.com)

  • Zaps & realness

  • Nutzaps & realness

  • Local-first & local algorithms

  • nostrdb VS local relays

  • Local data & relevancy

  • noDNS, locality, local preference, and "good enough"

  • Mostly online vs mostly offline

  • "Servers aren't bad. Getting rugpulled is bad."

  • "Information is easy to spread but hard to stifle"

  • Local hubs, community hubs, global hubs

  • "nostr was built for broadcasting"

  • Building stuff badly & nerd-sniping people

  • Gigi's ants video

  • Walking in circles

  • DM metadata leakage

  • "It shouldn't matter where the data comes from"

  • "Deleting data is a lie"

  • The impossibility of proving deletion

  • Bitrot & data loss

  • Fighting bitrot with duplication & rebroadcasting

  • Bouquet, blossom, and self-healing links

  • Local-first vs local-also

  • Left-side of the bellcurve CDN

  • The one whale relay

  • Topic-based relays

  • fiatjaf's pyramid relay

  • Torrents, early video content, game installers

  • fiatjaf’s take on IPFS

  • Why not rebuild Cloudflare?

  • Censorship-resistance = 100% uptime = no rugpulls

  • Getting offered weed on the streets

  • Every app works in flight mode

  • No developer needs an API key

  • "The data accumulates where it needs to accumulate"

  • Browser history as an example of local data & user interests

  • WoT is kinda local

  • wot.dergigi.com

  • Blossom is different; blobs are heavy

  • American HODL's vlogs

  • "Step 1 is to build a shitty version"

  • HAVEN

  • Nostr Repair Kit (Nostr pacemaker)

  • Shout-out to Pablo's highlighter (fucking hell)

  • Open-source & scratching your own itch

  • Applesauce v4

  • "It's almost done" - famous last words!

  • Outbox in applesauce, and how it makes everything more difficult

  • Waves, routstr, Pete, Justin, Paul, Gzuuus

  • Hzrd's SEC-05 highlights

  • noDNS

  • Wally & Cashu Wallet Connect

  • Crazy idea => Consensus => Implementation

  • Difference between idea & implementation

  • "Domains are shitcoins"

  • We've been living in a post-domain world for a while

  • Independent browsers & project Ladybird

  • Nostr-native browser - who will build it?

  • "A different way of doing internet infrastructure"

  • Is a world without APIs possible?

  • Mainframe => Personal Computer => Smartphones

  • Online sometimes => Offline sometimes

  • Local LLMs

  • Nostr allows you to build less

  • Thin layers & special-purpose apps

  • NIP-60 and finding spare change under the couch

  • Does negentropy fix NIP-60 synchronization?

  • Nostr is synergistic

  • The beauty of nostr-relay-tray

  • Nostr works. We've come far!

  • It's all coming together

  • Boris

  • "You can always go back and build it right"

  • Just begin again.

  • Just begin again.

  • Just begin again.