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Last Notes npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://github.com/lumehq/coop (compile from source for now) works great. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Here's a reasonable explanation if you're tired of just empty rants: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf They go into a black hole because Nostr is too small today and we're living with these public relays anyone can write. That situation cannot work if Nostr gets bigger, there will be too much spam. Many relays will be forced to close themselves only to users that meet a certain criteria (payment, relationship, content quality, PoW, etc), then once you have that it becomes in the interest of these relays to exclude people who aren't behaving well, therefore reporting them to the relays they use becomes a meaningful act. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Some form of "moderation" is absolutely necessary if you want any open space to remain usable by good people. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I think your imagination is lacking. But if you can paint to me how that scenario appears on Nostr I'll be glad to hear. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I don't know if @nprofile…n7yc was joking but clients should actually offer protection against that kind of stuff -- perhaps not explicitly, but by means of allowing advanced relay choice for each kind of action and circumstance. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Thank you, it was a simple bug in a completely unrelated thing that was crashing the server and preventing votes to be computed. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Reporting bugs on Coop is very good, @nprofile…k7sq not only fixes all of them, he also replies with a video showing the new behavior working, like on https://github.com/lumehq/coop/issues/76#event-18556330014 npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Just made a website which tracks nostr projects I've created that are approximately useful: https://stuff.fiatjaf.com/ npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Maybe following people is overrated. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Honestly if something is commercially viable it shouldn't be funded by OpenSats. OpenSats is not VC capital as far as I understand. And Nostr is not "data access and subscription", you don't need Nostr for that, you can run a server and provide that very easily without Nostr. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Nothing on Nostr has commercial viability today because we only have 120 users. Twitter clones also have no commercial viability. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Yes, I've never seen anyone serious here complain about Bluesky or Farcaster based on the content, I have no problem with their content. Their only problem to me is fake decentralization. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Many people external to Nostr perceive it as a single community of "crypto" or Bitcoin lovers. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf @nprofile…pt5w can probably arrange that. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf This is horrible so I couldn't listen, but imagine a real world rapper doing a music with this title: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf What do you think of going full p2p with iroh instead of using relays? (Assuming it works.) npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf `nak bunker` should now persist your authorized pubkeys, secret key and list of relays, so you can do something like `nak bunker --profile myself --sec ncryptsec1whatever relay.nsec.app khatru.nostrver.se` once, then later `nak bunker --profile myself` and it will keep your previously authorized client connections working. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://lockbox.fiatjaf.com, https://zapbox.fiatjaf.com and https://labour.fiatjaf.com will be shut down soon. If all goes right they will be revived later under a different domain. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Thank you, but you explained too much and I still have no idea of what is the job of the client and what is the job of the user in this case, concretely. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I'm not against that. Another of my plans is to make "blockchain domains" that do not suck using a Bitcoin spacechain, but so far that hasn't been possible and who knows if it would actually work. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I'd say it's extra complexity that is not really solving any problem we have. Nostr is already pretty resilient against DNS issues. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Coop only does NIP-17 and NIP-17 is very clear: just giftwraps, NIP-44 and you must send the message specifically to the announced DM relays of the other person and receive messages at yours, so there is really no room for confusion. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You're still not getting my messages, right? @npub1zfs…w445 please fix! npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It's just for DMs, you still have to build all the other things. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf @npub1syj…f6wl is it time for you to set-up NIP-17 DMs for yourself? (Don't worry, this isn't a Jumble feature request). npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://chachi.chat/ npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You should have never revealed your nationality. Now I'm paralyzed and can't reply to your DM. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf We don't have many users or developers. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I have many plans for fixing bugs and adding things but couldn't yet. Maybe I should just migrate to fritzer? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Yes, apparently he wasn't a good person. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M33mfhQUJnM npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf That can be argued against hashtagging too. Labeling is already strictly better than that. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I don't have any appetite to tackle anything related to PGP, but maybe it's a good idea, I don't know. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://i.nostr.build/CRWltdSr3mX2hRbP.png npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf To be fair the write-up on that page is not the clearest possible. I think @npub15qy…yejr may be working on a better protocol description. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf This is the best idea since Blossom. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf @nprofile…49mr can you do Android and iOS apps with gpui? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Darwin was wrong and Jesus did not exist. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://blog.tangled.sh/stacking @npub15qy…yejr @npub1use…k5ks this is interesting. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf alphaama is back! npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf So I made this IndexedDB event store thing that is somewhat insane but kinda works: https://jsr.io/@nostr/gadgets/doc/store/~/IDBEventStore npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Satisfactory. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf A single one of these files has actual code in them: https://aegis.utxo.one/839c7a09911e2b01ddadbad607cb275863d3ab70bdc447ce90239ead691930f4.png npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Não faço idéia de como funciona essa extensão aí, o código dela não é aberto. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf [insert rant about DHTs] npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf On Coracle there is clear visual feedback. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Coracle already fixes the URL on behalf of the user, which is the correct implementation if you ask me. Damus also does this at least in part, and others I forgot. I think it's going to be well. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf This is definitely a client flaw on the part of @npub120r…x44g's client since he is advertising publishing to 12 relays, but he actually only publishes to the 4 big ones. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf He wasn't looking for a solution for him personally, it was a comment on the general state of these platforms. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I have written about the general idea of "value for value" before. I think it's just a marketing term for donations, and donations are not new nor revolutionary. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Facts are not arguments. People do what they need to achieve their goals. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf In other words: if relays are not the right abstraction for publications I'm interested in learning what new things relays are a good abstraction for -- and how these new things can be better than old style publications. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I'll wait for you to solidify your understanding, and maybe I don't know what a "publication" entails anyway (because I have no experience with that) and that specific thing is better done with a dedicated keypair or something, but that doesn't change the fact that relays are the unique Nostr superpower (and that we don't have any other superpower, so we should use that one wisely). npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf There is no guarantee of anything anywhere, much less on the internet. Most good faith relays will probably respect "-" (and currently all the big ones do), but "piracy" exists and I'm not even saying that's a bad thing. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf What else will you abstract? Just abstracting login is not enough to justify this. Login is easy with bunkers and something like window.nostr.js. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You're not alone in thinking that: #nevent1q…ez6l @npub1rau…dees npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf How are these apps going to be written? Are you trying to make a browser? I hope it's not just wrapping Chrome and asking people to write JavaScript. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Would they also deem cars illegal if they were introduced today or not? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf The OS will try to open something? No, the app will parse that much more easily and display the quoted event, or turn it into a link of its choice. There are literally no downsides. It's super easy for the client that is publishing the event to automatically prefix quotes with a `nostr:`. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I've answered there, thank you very much. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I switched to that today and it's actually quite good, better than the other. I switch to wss://relays.land/spatianostra and wss://algo.utxo.one too but they're too low-frequency so they don't give me the impression that next tweet will contain revolutionary disrupting incredible news about something completely good and unexpected. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf https://relays.land/ now has an option to create moderated relays. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Instead of "EVENT" the message must be "AUTH". npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Technically can't find an event even if you have the full ID anyway, because you don't know the relays the event is in. That's why we have nevent1 codes and relay and author hints in tags. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It's just unnecessary complexity. REQ filters are already too powerful, they should be simpler. The use cases are marginal and never important, often just "cool". They can all be implemented using custom relays with crazy logic, which is what we should be doing anyway for many other things. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Voting is working again, another stupid bug. Thank you for insisting. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf @npub1utx…50e8 is underdelivering. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Apparently Gossip was also the only that replied to the correct place, wss://inbox.fiatjaf.com, and not to wss://lockbox.fiatjaf.com. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You're evil. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You can use environment variables maybe? $NOSTR_SECRET_KEY is used by default by nak if nothing is specified, but you could just use arbitrary environment variables while constructing your commands. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Well, Coracle has broken my example non-URLs and non-Nostr URIs by changing them to rich text at read-time. @nprofile…7pju please fix. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Then you can do stuff like npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf What do you mean by "test"? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf @nprofile…58km "nak publish" should work if you install it from this commit: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf After a brief interruption, this bot is back and catching up: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Why all this sudden interest in BUD-04? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf This was very mindblowing, for sure. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Bitcoin Core had 4 pull requests merged in the last 5 days. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Nostr relay wars: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf If you have YAML frontmatter maybe you can do something like this for every file: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf James O'Beirne has the best takes: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf For sure you're a fake account from someone, but I have no clue of who. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Has anyone tried https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj? npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Jokes aside it was a good idea that someone should still implement, but instead of a DVM-via-events like this we should do it in a DVM-via-HTTP-API or DVM-via-special-relay. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf The first DVM: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Oh, his follow pack app could take nprofile strings, extract a relay URL and put it in the tag like ["p", "<pubkey>", "wss://whatever"] npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I don't know much about the drama, but I think it's absolutely stupid to try to block OP_RETURNs when the alternative (data encoded in unspendable fake pubkeys) is much worse. Also there is no practical difference between a transaction from a person you don't like and a bunch of arbitrary data. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Yes, that. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It was supposed to be kept private by the relay, but Jumble was refusing to AUTH (@nprofile…3ve2 I don't know why this happened but it did, it generally works but sometimes Jumble just decides to not perform AUTH after getting an `auth-required:` error?) so I kept retrying and eventually I must have forgotten to click on the "send only to this relay" checkbox (@nprofile…txj9 maybe the checkbox state should be persistent?). npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf You can have a relay hint for each tag in kind:3 follow lists, some clients have it there, there is no reason why you can't have the same for the tags in the follow pack. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf Hopefully no one can read this note. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf So I have this very basic NIP-29 unmanaged forum thing here that is meant to be hosted by the same relay that is hosting the content: npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf DVM drama > OP_RETURN drama npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf There is a Formula 1 news bot in here somewhere. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It wasn't clear to me at first, but now I think we should reframe DVMs as bots, instead of as a standard for RPC communication via Nostr events. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It uses an HTTP/JSON-based DVM. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf It looks like you mostly agree with me, except you want to reserve the kinds. Reserving the kinds, at least to me, was a good idea when I thought there could be a generic interface for interacting with DVMs --and that's why I tried to make a `nak dvm` command but failed, and that may also be why DVMDash doesn't show details about each request and response, only statistics: because they're not really generic, you would have to write dedicated code for each. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf I agree about calling things bots, it was poorly worded. I guess we could say that a bot can be a person and a person can be a bot, just like Bluesky labelers can also be either bots or humans. I think I was just trying to convey a different concept of bot, which is that of a profile that can be interact with in a programmatic way, so it "looks like a bot", doesn't matter if there is a human inside the box. npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 fiatjaf This is not true, you're not forced to implement them, but once you decide to implement them you must follow the rules.
